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AfA OS - Anti-aliased fonts

Author Anonymous
Guest
#1 Posted: 26 Nov 2005 23:50 
Hi Jan,

AmiKit looks cool, many thanks for creating this
great package.

Here's a tip for you:

http://amidevcpp.kilu.de/afaupload.php3

Anti-aliased Bitstream Vera fonts. Have used it extensively on
my UAE setup and I've experienced no crashes. I think it would
be a really valuable addition to AmiKit.

Author Anonymous
Guest
#2 Posted: 27 Nov 2005 01:16 
Yes, I mentioned this to Jan last night...

James

Author AmiKit
Admin
#3 Posted: 27 Nov 2005 16:10 
I tried it yesterday evening with no success... AfA_Prefs still reports that AfA_OS is not running...

Author Anonymous
Guest
#4 Posted: 27 Nov 2005 20:44 
Here's some things you need to think about, although
I'm not sure you will get it working with this:

Ensure the loader in C: gets run (C:AFA_OS_Loader, you cannot use "Run" to launch it) before IPrefs/VP Prefs.

Do a C:Assign AFA_OS_Libs: SYS:AFA_OS:Libs
if it complains about missing assign.

Move the picturedatatype to the disabled directory inside the AFA_OS_Libs directory (it doesn't seem to work)

Also, I haven't look at AmiKit yet, but if it's heavily patched with MCP
and other stuff, AFTER the AFA_OS_loader has been started, the
manual states that the new functions *could* be overwritten, AFAIU.
This could be the reason why you get that error message.

But anyway, keep on trying. You might get it working.

Author jmbattle
Guest
#5 Posted: 29 Nov 2005 13:44 
Try the latest AFA - there have been a number of improvements of late.

I tried the last version on an AIAB setup and was chuffed to bits - finally, some decent antialiased fonts in MUI ;)

I just need to find an mui.key (cough) as I left mine back in England...

Cheers,
James

Author AmiKit
Admin
#6 Posted: 30 Nov 2005 19:34 
James, if you have a time, could you please try AfA with AmiKit? Just let me know if it works and how did you get it working. I always get a GURU and I have no time to experiment more...

Author jmbattle
Guest
#7 Posted: 3 Dec 2005 03:05 
Hello again,

Well I just tried the latest release and ran into a little difficulty whereby my current AIAB installation stalled during startup - I havent investigated further - yet starting the patch post-boot works.

Furthermore, I am afraid I do not have access to an OS3.5/3.9 CD with which to even test AmiKit, and am unlikely to purchase one in the near future.

I apologise for not being able to help further, however you are a pretty switched-on chap - I'm sure you will work this out once the AfA OS bugs are ironed out. In my opinion, antialiased fonts are really the only thing missing from your setup (judging by the current screenshots) - once you have this integrated AmiKit will surely be perfect!

Cheers,
James

Author Truck
Registered
#8 Posted: 3 Dec 2005 20:27 
I have to say as a fellow with eyesight that's less than perfect, the push to Antialiased fonts drives me nuts. I can't READ 'em, I don't WANT 'em, and please, please, make it an option for your users. Some of us need those edges to distinguish the characters.

(Yes, I have ONE font that I can really read, Amiga Topaz from 2.0 - anything else is difficult. There are times when Topaz is also difficult, but then I adjust the screen size and whatnot.)

Author jmbattle
Guest
#9 Posted: 4 Dec 2005 03:03 
May I assume you are not using an LCD monitor?

Topaz was useful back in the day, when everyone connected thier Amigas up to TVs, however any system that still uses this clunky typeface inevitably ends-up looking out-dated.

James

Author Truck
Registered
#10 Posted: 8 Dec 2005 21:18 
I don't care if I look outdated if I can _READ_ the screen.

And, yes, my Ibook of course has an LCD monitor. And then I have tubes. Doesn't matter, blurring the fonts using antialiaising is difficult to read. I cringe when I have to use XP because of Cleartype.

You can be all about being a hipster, me, I want to be able to USE my system. Period. And if the fonts are antialiased, it's unusable.

Now I understand most people have the OPPOSITE reaction, and that's why I advocate an OPTION.

Author Anonymous
Guest
#11 Posted: 17 Dec 2005 21:08 
Even if AmiKit would use anti-aliased fonts, you always change the
screenfont to Topaz...

With respect, I think people advocating the use of Topaz are
in a very small minority.

Author Truck
Registered
#12 Posted: 24 Dec 2005 01:22 
Topaz, antialiased, is just not good. No, the issue isn't being able to choose a font - it's being able to stop the blurring that happens with antialiasing.

again, it's fine if it's a CHOICE. Everyone should be able to use it as a CHOICE, turn it on, or turn it off. But please make that a configuration choice at start - so those of us who can't read things antialiased don't have to fight with an editor or something when you can't READ it.

Author AmiKit
Admin
#13 Posted: 24 Dec 2005 01:53 Edited by: AmiKit 
Don't worry, AfA_OS update package for AmiKit will be distributed as a separate and independent download... :) I just do not know when, maybe I would wait for next version of AfA_OS...

Author jmbattle
Guest
#14 Posted: 26 Dec 2005 08:50 
Good to hear Jan!

I'm also playing around with AfA_OS in AIAB, however I'm a little unsure of an efficient, legal way of configuring the system - there's a lot of individual settings files that need to be changed to reflect the new font additions; and this assumes the user even wishes to use the fonts you have defined...

As for anti-aliased Topaz, well unless a truetype version exists, I suspect the chances of this occuring are rather slim, so please don't worry. ;)

James

Author Anonymous
Guest
#15 Posted: 27 Dec 2005 13:14 
Here's a clarification to my last comment:

What I meant was that, you can always change the font
to Topaz, and you will see nothing but the old Topaz.
It will be displayed exactly like you're used to.

In order to have anti-aliased fonts, you need to select
such a font.

In other words, the anti-alias will not be applied to the
old bitmap fonts... That's the way the AFA OS addition
pack works.

Cube

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